I am who I am and who I am not, I will never be. And who I am is a lazy a** ni***
-Deji
I am who I am and who I am not, I will never be. And who I am is a lazy a** ni***
-Deji
Because ain't nothing but a cheap bang baby To blow them G's. So we crazy Death grown against the label that pays man Unfaithful. So please don't try to fake this. But I'm back to the lecture at hand. Back to the lecture, or legend, at hand.
Speaker 1:For those of you who have been listening or just been a part of the life of Daegi, y'all know one thing about me, and now one thing is that I will be myself in all spaces. Now some of y'all have known that to be a funny, charismatic outgoing guy. But there's also the flip side where there is a little bit of assholishness, a little bit of a jerk face and, honestly, just completely obtuse of my own choosing. I'm not saying I'm perfect. I'm a human being, I'm imperfectly perfect. But we go through our trials and tribulations and in today's episode I'm a breakdown or scenario in my life, fairly recent, where I've been this person, been that person, but now mugs want to come at me. So for those of y'all who have, say, a favorite chore or there's always something in your own house when you live with your people or when you live with others you have always been designated to do, regardless. I am one of those people where I have made a stance early on in my childhood that I would not wash dishes.
Speaker 2:What.
Speaker 1:Yes, as a younging I said, I never got the point of washing dishes.
Speaker 2:I personally. There's dirty dishes. That's the point.
Speaker 1:That doesn't mean anything to me and you use them. That does not mean anything to me.
Speaker 2:So I'm very confused on this, because that does not mean so. At a young age, you decided that you weren't going to wash dishes Because I did not see the validity. And washing dirty dishes that you have. You have dirtied. The validity is there, like I said.
Speaker 1:What the hell? There are certain things as an individual, you just say I'm not going to do, it's not for me. It was never a sexist thing, it was never. None of that.
Speaker 2:It has to be, it has to be, it has to be rooted in that. No, it does not, it's a lot of chores how.
Speaker 1:Because I do the laundry. It's your clothes I do. I used to do everybody's laundry, remember? No, I don't remember. I literally used to be in the basement sorting through clothes, with mom doing laundry, folding laundry, please, please. I used to clean, I used to clean the bathroom, I used to mop. You used the bathroom.
Speaker 2:So I used to be you used the bathroom. I used to be you supposed to clean it.
Speaker 1:I used to be very domesticated in this house for shared spaces. Yeah, he knows this.
Speaker 2:But you don't want to wash the dishes that you use.
Speaker 1:But for me, the one thing I could never get.
Speaker 2:The kitchen is the most shared space.
Speaker 1:I could never wrap my head around the kitchen is the most shared space.
Speaker 2:It's the washing of dishes. And not only is it the most shared space, it's the most used space by everybody in the house. Everybody goes into it.
Speaker 1:You saying all this here, all this wahala, is it wahala? I say that because you know it's Ramadan season.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:And typically people doing Ramadan, they don't necessarily have the bandwidth to deal with bullshit. Yeah, yours, especially, specifically yours, my mama.
Speaker 2:Oh no, Specifically your bullshit Specifically my mama.
Speaker 1:As y'all heard, I haven't really done. I haven't literally washed the dishes consistently after I've used in a plate Arguably probably since I was 9 or 10. Wow, I always leave it there and you know what Magically you get washed.
Speaker 2:I don't know if it's, it's not magic, it's somebody else doing it for you, it's magic.
Speaker 1:It's crazy when y'all just decide to leave in and see how far they give you an itch, you take a mile.
Speaker 2:Now purpose None of that sounds like a responsible thing to do.
Speaker 1:Now I preface that, Like I said, it's Ramadan, my mama is fasting and I know during these times she's a little bit more testy.
Speaker 2:Irritable.
Speaker 1:Irritable. Her balance is already not that high, so during a point where she can't eat while the sun is up, it's going to be through the roof.
Speaker 2:And instead of being somebody who compromises or realizes all the things that you're saying, instead of making their life a little bit easier, what do you do? I don't do nothing but live my life.
Speaker 1:So I say that because the other day my mom came home I wasn't even out here, I was at the gym came back from the gym, Me and you are going to have problems. I said, mom, I just got back. Why did you wish you yelled at me before?
Speaker 2:Well, first of all, let me tell you what?
Speaker 1:Because you weren't home.
Speaker 2:I was home, I was in my room getting ready to go out and my mom the first thing she does when she comes in the house is she starts calling my dad. She's like come look at this, come look at this Coolant, like he's supposed to do something and they can know he can't say shit to us. Are we waiting for you to say one thing to us? Because we got words for you. You can open your mouth and say anything. I bet you I'll shut you down and make you look stupid crazy. So she calling him, I'm like what the nigga going to do. Then she start calling me from upstairs. Mind you, I'm in my room getting ready, so I didn't have no shirt on and I can't walk around the house naked or with no shirt on. I can do no pants, but I can't do no shirt. So I was just like in my room getting ready. She's yelling my name and I already know what she's upset about, because I came downstairs earlier, after Deji left, before my parents came home, and I saw that there was dishes in the sink and I knew it was going to be a problem. But one thing about me I'm not clean up after. No grown ass man, I'm not clean up after Deji, I'm not clean up after my father. I'm not doing that. I'm not clean up after no grown ass man, especially when they are fully capable of cleaning up themselves. So I just looked at the dishes and I went to my room. I already knew it was going to be some shit. She started yelling my name. Then she come into my room talking about some. You didn't hear me calling you. I responded yes, I'm not going to run downstairs.
Speaker 2:So you can ask me who left these dishes in the sink? Well, you know who left the dishes in the sink? It's no, it's no, it's no. You know confusion, quorums or whatever the fuck the people say. You know that Deji cooked and left the dishes in the sink Because anytime I cook, I wash the dishes after myself, because I just, you know that's what you do, that's just what responsible people do, people with reason. That's what they do, because when you use dishes, you should wash them. But this is his story to tell. So I'm just letting him you know I'm just interjecting with what happened before Deji came home so he can continue with where he left off. So yeah, she's like. I'm like girl. You're doing all this yelling about there being dishes in the sink, asking who left the dishes when you knew it was Deji. She like then she walked away Because I'm like, yeah, you need to save that. She's like I told you not to tell me that I'm yelling. I'm like no girl, if you're yelling, I'm going to tell you you're yelling.
Speaker 2:It's not disrespectful, it's just, it's just reason, because you're yelling about something we all know that was Deji's fault 100%.
Speaker 1:So I walk in the door. You know I had a really hard workout. I'm tired. It's been a long week Exhausted.
Speaker 2:From working out, not from not not eating, because you're doing your religious purposes For a work week. Ok, I'm just saying so I come in.
Speaker 1:my mom said me and you are going to have problems yelling at the top. I said, hold on, I might just walk through the door, come out of there.
Speaker 2:Hello, how are you? How's your day?
Speaker 1:And I said how are you doing Whatever? And I said why are you yelling? I just got in the house. She said you're not going to like me, me and you, we go to fights. I said I was like calm down. I said calm down.
Speaker 2:Ain't nobody trying to fight you. I think that's the great equalizer, like now that we're older and we're still at our parents' houses. I think the great equalizer is that we know they're not about to like, they're not about I mean, they might try to put their hands on us now, but they're really too old for that and honestly, so are we. Yeah, so then, if she? Because one time my dad tried to threaten me and said that he was going to slap me and I said I wish you would. I'll slap the shit out you back. I just want to just give me a reason we could be in this bitch boxed for real.
Speaker 2:I wasn't serious he wasn't serious, though I didn't even sound confident coming out of his mouth. But like, if you was, I was too. So then that happened.
Speaker 1:We could get to rumbling. So that happened and she was, we was going and she was like me they're going to have to call the police. I called the police on you. I said here call 911.
Speaker 2:That's what I said.
Speaker 1:She's a bad. I called 911 because you don't call the police or your son she said oh you know, she You're not supposed to be living here, yeah. And then you say you don't want to live here. I said, mom, what would you do if I wasn't here? So my problem is I be knowing I do stuff wrong and instead of Doing the right thing.
Speaker 2:Instead of just doing the right thing, you try to make it Somebody. Just try to gaslight people. I don't gaslight.
Speaker 1:I ease over because I'd be like you know we still good. I said we still alive. You all right, I love you too. You know I do that. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2:And then my mom don't like that because she would be like she wants him to be upset by the things that she's saying she knows that's her, like she doesn't have too many ways to attack because she can't physically beat him up, but with her words she can strike. And if someone is literally laughing at you or they're just making a joke out of the situation, correct and that was my problem yeah. But, like I said, your problem is that you left the dishes in the sink.
Speaker 2:And now you're trying to reason that when you were a kid, you just decided at the young age that you were never just going to wash dishes again. Because did I wash dishes when I was a young?
Speaker 1:child. No, exactly so I've nothing that's changed.
Speaker 2:If it did, if it started it out of lessons and it continues, that doesn't make it right and I even tell this nigga, this nigga would, just, by this justification, this nigga will say when he was young he was killing rodents and now he is serial killer, it's OK because they allowed him to do it when he was younger. That's your justification. It's the same situation, it's just different circumstances.
Speaker 1:So why have I tell you all this story? Because today's episode is about being unapologetically yourself.
Speaker 1:We had a scenario in the last recent, or actually in the last week a national championship game with Caitlin Clark and Angel Reese and we could even go before then if we want to talk about LSU. Both women one white, one black, one other culture, one another culture were both being unapologetically themselves. And that's the crazy thing that people don't understand, because they don't understand the women's game. For somebody who's been watching women's basketball damn near since I've been 17, 16, because my sister played the sport y'all just didn't understand that women could be like this, they could have this competitive edge, they could have this bravado, this zeal, just like the men do. It just looks different because of how it's packaged. Caitlin Clark she was running up the numbers, going crazy in the NCAA tournament, talking all this stuff. Y'all were saying Copa Mantali, but she still was being unapologetically.
Speaker 2:Mamba.
Speaker 1:Unapologetically herself.
Speaker 2:Who's Cobra?
Speaker 1:Cobra Mamba, you right, I said Mamba.
Speaker 1:And then Angel Reese she just giving you. Honestly, I don't know what the hood they talking about. I don't know if Angel Reese is really giving me ghetto hood or whatever they've been saying. To me she just seemed like a normal black girl who is in her bag from a basketball standpoint and she understands her blackness and she's reveling in that and she actually is very proud to be black and she shows it every single time. She is doing everything. Even her poses are feminine. You know what I'm saying. She understands that balance between being an athlete and being a woman right, as anybody should. And my problem is that other people are trying to dictate to these women how they need to act, and I'm telling y'all right now.
Speaker 2:you tell somebody, Well, they're only telling one person how they should react.
Speaker 1:I guess you're right.
Speaker 2:The whole buzz or the whole controversy with the situation is that Angel Reese was taunting and I say that with quotation marks Caitlin Clark at the end of the game, even though they lost. So, or because they lost, she was taunting them. If the roles were reversed, it wouldn't have been none of this dialogue, none of this discourse, but because Angel Reese and her team full of black women won and beat a team full of white girls, with a couple of sprinkles of black women and ambiguity, the conversation is different. I'm really here to talk about being unapologetic yourself.
Speaker 2:One thing that we need to realize is that this younger generation of people because Angel Reese is a sophomore, so she may be 2019, maybe 21, fresh, 21. These are kids and they're not from the same generation of us where we have to be respectability, politics and all this stuff they gonna say whatever the fuck they want and you're not gonna. The consequences is not the same for them, because this is their world. Yeah, I was about to say Before us I wish I could. That's why I say y'all just lucky that I wasn't really good at basketball, because if I was really good at basketball, I would have been just like that and I was very unapologetic when I was young.
Speaker 2:I was very unapologetic when I was young, to the point to where the white people because it was white people the white people around me worked so hard to make me not be the way that.
Speaker 1:I was Like they physically?
Speaker 2:you could physically see them like seizing and having, like you know, like the dissonance of just trying to control me, but I'm just like a 16, 17 year old, which is not even.
Speaker 1:not even. That's what it was. I was definitely unapologetic At young girl, because we can go back to when you were in fifth grade.
Speaker 2:Oh yeah, I mean since I was coming into my own and since I started being able to like, pick up on like life and social and social conversations and social cues, I've always just been unapologetically myself and people have had a problem with it. And the difference between me and Angel Reese is that she can do her big one because we realize that, like respectability, politics only affects us Because either way, if you fit into this box of what the white people want, they're still going to tell you you're not good enough because you black. So you might as well get outside that fucking box, do what you want to do, be who you are and just live your life.
Speaker 1:Be who you are for your life there, there, there. So I mean I agree with you right and not to focus.
Speaker 2:That's why I love Chicago shit. Like, even though we're from the suburbs 100. And that's not like our, it's our experience. Like nobody will ever tell me like we don't, we're not from Chicago. Like, regardless of like what you know, where the lines are and how people you know define Chicago and suburbs and whatever the fuck I'm, I'm completely okay with saying that I'm from streamwood, but I'm also completely okay with being like I'm from Chicago and I love Chicago shit. Like, when I go to certain places and I go to certain events and I know it's going to be a good ass Chicago time, I'm okay with that. Like I love Chicago girls. So like I love, I love everything about you know what it is to be Chicago.
Speaker 1:Be from Chicago, whether it's Southside, westside.
Speaker 2:You know I don't really pick a side. If you from up North, you know that's where we from and if you from over East. You know that's, that's, it's on Chicago, that's your own Chicago too. I love a. I got my Miska Moscow too, Because if Lotto can go to East shore and film a music video, that was in the East shore. Yes, this is South shore, South East.
Speaker 1:East.
Speaker 2:East side. Chicago is South shore, got you.
Speaker 1:Like right by Indiana? Yeah, I know where that was.
Speaker 2:If Lotto can go there and feel comfortable. I got quotation marks Then you know anybody can during the day I just I just, and that's a white woman. So y'all, this white woman just walked through Lotto is white, she is.
Speaker 1:Lotto is mixed.
Speaker 2:That's why woman.
Speaker 1:Okay, well, she's definitely mixed what you eat.
Speaker 2:So injuries, you know? I just I feel like DG is like he said. He is just very unapologetic in the way that he refuses to wash dishes that he used and is leaving the responsibility of washing the dishes to somebody else, just because he and and and, as much as a progressive person that he likes to be, he's a fully leaning into misogyny because he knows that a woman is not going to leave dishes. You're a liar.
Speaker 1:You're a liar.
Speaker 2:You're a liar Then give the actual reason to why you don't wash the dishes.
Speaker 1:I told you.
Speaker 2:I just, I just that's not like a bullshit reason to just. It might be unbeknownst to you. Unbeknownst to you. You like the?
Speaker 1:massage where unbeknownst yes, unbeknownst. I didn't say that I don't I pronounce words correctly.
Speaker 2:You're the one who unbeknownst to you.
Speaker 1:Okay, there we go, unbeknownst to you.
Speaker 2:You might have that internalized massage. New are in you, it's okay. It's literally benefit off the fact that you're a male, whether you identify with it or not. So the fact because if I left them dishes in the sink, mom would fully come upstairs and beat my ass, or I wouldn't even do that because I know how to wash my dishes.
Speaker 2:But I'm just saying the conversation would have been different. The fact that she just called you, out your name and washed the dishes is just regular, but the fact that I would not even think of that or the fact that somebody could say you're a girl, you should be doing this, but that's not the conversation that you got. You literally just got told all of the things that you got told and somebody else washed the dishes 100%. So it's, like I said, underlying something that you can't control, something that you're unaware of, but you fully benefit off the fact that you're a man. That's not the reason why I know, that's not the reason why you think, but I'm just letting you know the obvious.
Speaker 2:Oh yeah, I could get that the unconscious bias? There's no bias in the situation with the unconscious.
Speaker 1:Yeah, just reality of the situation Be learned behavior. Yeah, that's what I was going to say. I mean yes, but I think even in general right, the dishes is a small thing, because that's actionable, but the personality traits that I've been granted and I've just learned to lean into, because that's who I am, is kind of like the crux of the conversation we're having. Like, if I look at my whole entire life, I'm still the same person in my values that I am. That I was when I was a younger kid. It's just a little bit more refined and I have situational awareness. So for me, like you said, similar to you, my problem was that I've always been a pretty outspoken and if you tell me to shut up, I'ma just keep talking.
Speaker 1:Black boy into black man, right, it doesn't really matter what era of my life.
Speaker 1:If a teacher has told me to stop talking because you're trying to teach something in the class and I already got it and I feel like you could speed up the class, I've done that and the what is funny, how, like at first, the biggest obstacles in your life are usually the people who don't think that you will amount to much. And that's what I've realized, right, when I was a young black boy and all these teachers were over here separating me from all my friends. I would have my own individual desk, right by the teacher, or away from them, or I'd be closer to the teacher and at the end of the day, it was just for them to police me, right? Which we've talked about before on this episode, on this podcast, about how teachers kind of will police you because they're trying to force you to be something you're not, and all those same teachers who didn't know that you would amount to much. Guess where the fuck they at and guess where the fuck we at. Still there.
Speaker 2:We always have this conversation, though we literally like it's so unfortunate because we've spoken about, I think that like the educational system, as flawed as it is, literally has the potential to like bring it's where you spend the most of your days as a kid, like you literally spend the most of your days for most of the years in this schooling system so they have the potential to really shift your life in one way or another and I feel like it is on teachers to really take that responsibility to do that.
Speaker 2:I mean, regardless of the resources like you know, we're literally seeing it with Abba Elementary. They're giving us a like, a take, if you will, on like the schooling system from like how they don't have the resources and stuff, like that but like we actually see that there are teachers who are doing their best to make a difference. I mean at the elementary school level and I can't really speak to my elementary school teachers because that was so long ago but like, when I think about my ex, when I think about like, the bulk of like, or the transformative period in my education in my education it was high school- and I think about those interactions that I had with those teachers.
Speaker 2:Them teachers didn't do what they needed to do, but that's because it's. So we always talk, we literally always talk about them, but I think it's so important because teachers have so much power that they don't. They may not feel like they have because they're so limited in their resources, but I think, like your attitude, is the biggest it could do.
Speaker 1:a little could go so far especially in high school, as somebody who is actively so.
Speaker 2:I love a good teacher though.
Speaker 1:Yeah, as somebody who A good teacher, I love a good teacher 100% as somebody who is actively like a participant in the community and trying to give back to younger generations. I think the one thing that I've taken away from my interactions when I was that age is that nobody encouraged me and allowed me to be myself, and that comes from a point of one internal confidence and like security in your insecurities. Right, because what you see is like a lot of teachers will project their, a lot of people who aren't in authority to figure will project their insecurities on how a person should behave onto said child, or yeah, because that's what it is. We're children all the way up until high school, and so we get honestly up into college 2018.
Speaker 1:I mean, but even in college you're still a kid, so that's my thing. What I've realized is that, like, if I look back, a lot of people was trying to tell me how to act, but nobody was trying to teach me how to be me right, which is an individual journey, yes. But then I look at somebody like my older brother, or our older brother, tunde, and his thing was never like I'm not going to change who you are, I'm just going to see, I'm going to learn you, I'm going to figure you out, and then I'm going to best point out how you should shape your life based on what God has given you as your skill set and your gifts. So somebody who took the approach of like okay, there's nothing wrong with this person, there's nothing wrong with this individual, how do I continue to sew into this person? How do I continue to invest? How do I continue to allow this person to flourish as they are? Don't get me wrong.
Speaker 1:You learn lessons the wrong way, but your personality and your quirkiness is what makes you you, and what I'm saying is not the journeys and trials and tribulations, but anybody and I say this anybody who has ever tried to tell me how to be me. I shut that down real fucking quick, because what you're not going to do is tell me how to be me. I don't care if you have our best interests at heart. I don't even care if you feel like there's something wrong for me from a character standpoint. The only person who could check me is God, and probably to me and me Probably you. Those are the people. Besides that, anybody who's ever tried to tell me about myself I'm like you wasn't with me shooting in the gym. So me being unapologetic is me knowing that, hey, I've put the work in, I've really analyzed myself as a human being and I can speak boldly and I can speak confidently Because I know who I am. I know my intention.
Speaker 2:That's a good thing. Like you did the work for show Correct, you went to the therapy, you did the self-healing, you did the inner.
Speaker 1:I also did the apologizing. I went on a world tour of apologies that's what people really don't know because I'd be talking like I'm high and mighty, but I was obviously like no, I'm sorry for the way I talked to you during the season of my life. I'm sorry for what I did. You apologized to. Tunde, of course I did.
Speaker 2:Yeah, what did you do to him?
Speaker 1:No, I didn't apologize. Oh, I didn't apologize to Tunde.
Speaker 1:I didn't do anything I was going to say you didn't do nothing to him, but I did have to apologize to a number of folks because of how high I treated the situation. But that's part of it, right? Yeah, you know making amends, but also I'm not big up on that. So, like People are going to forgive you or they're not Exactly, and my thing is that, like now that I'm at the stage, the beauty of being unapologetically yourself is the way you get to love on yourself. So unintentionally, right the boundaries that like I have with people, but also myself, and learning who I am every day and my tendencies even faster, is really accelerated A lot of my, my season of growth, right, or, as Yamu was saying, I've been in my bag lately. I don't even feel like I'm really, really in that bitch. I feel like the hand is just at the cusp. I'm still. I'm still holding the handle. I'm not really in the bag yet.
Speaker 1:But you know that will come. But now I'm going to ask you right, because you talked about your experiences being a black girl in the schooling system.
Speaker 2:No, that's what we always, we always end up getting on that it just has so much of an influence on your life we really start to realize.
Speaker 1:You spend so much time there.
Speaker 2:You're literally until you graduate from, whether it's high school or college. If you go get your, you are literally a student for the majority of your life, 100%, until you're not. And we're always learning You're always a student. If you're not student in school, you're the student of the game. You're never not learning. I love learning.
Speaker 1:I just don't love like the schooling system education system Kind of it's kind of getting ridiculous with how much it costs.
Speaker 2:And they killing the killing, the shooting babies in the schools. So what's the question?
Speaker 1:So the question for me is that, like, besides schooling, right Like, what I've noticed for you is that your extracurricular activities kind of helped you to kind of shape who you are, but also, like, accept who you are. Right Like I'm not, that's not what I'm trying to say. They allowed you to be unapologetically yourself, right Like, I think when you joined Delta, a lot of your qualities came out Right Like you being a natural born leader, being very organized, routine, the sisterhood, the things that you wanted to be. I felt like you literally got position and that came out of you. So, like, how did that feel Like? What did that look like for you? What was that journey like?
Speaker 2:I mean at the time, like when I like joined, when I, when I became a duly initiated member into Delta, sigma, theta Sorority Incorporated, like you never realized how much of an impact it's going to have on you, especially since I didn't have any prior knowledge of the sisterhood before I got to college. And even like going through the process and just like learning all of the things, like I think, like it really just taught me that like you just have to be on your shit as a black woman, like you literally just have to be on your shit Anything you do. Like there's really no excuse that you can make because the work has to get done at the end of the day. Like I literally, by the time I got to my senior year was was running, fully running the chapter by myself and you know, putting on programs like doing the business, doing school, and then bringing in a line of eight initiates, my Niels, all by myself. Of course, I had the support of my alumni chapter, but when it came down to Delta chapter and anything that needed to be done for Delta chapter at the University of Iowa that year 2018, when I was a graduating senior, not knowing what the fuck I was going to do for the rest of my life because I was leaving.
Speaker 2:This part of my, this chapter was ending for me as it was beginning for other people. Every part of that process was me. I signed my name on eight applications. You know everything, sorry. So all of that like and that's, and really, what that taught me is that, like, anything that I want to do, I have the full capacity to do. Like, even now, people, how do you balance doing this and this and this? Because I've done it under a pressure cooker, which is literally just like you have this.
Speaker 2:These are the deadlines you need to make and you have, you know, people have done this with all of the support that they need. So one thing I realized is, yeah, definitely use your resources and, you know, fall on, fall on your people when you can, but also realize that, like nobody is going to do the work If you don't do it, it's just not going to get done. It needs to get done because other people depend on you. Like there were literally girls who wanted to share this, this same experience that I cherish so much and that I was cherishing when I was there. They want to share this experience with me and also with the, with the, with the masses of Delta, sigma, theta. So it's really on you to ensure that they have that, that experience. But, yeah, so it just it just spawned from that. Also, it's just really fun.
Speaker 2:I realized that, like, being in situations like that are where I thrive the best, like I, I like being busy, I like I like having something to do, not because I'm avoiding, you know, downtime and boredom, because I definitely sit in that all the time as well, but I just would prefer to be like hands on, you know, like in, in in the situation, and then that's how you know, like the music stuff, like the DJing stuff, and like becoming like this, this, this social light, or you know what we're working towards.
Speaker 2:All the things that we're doing right now is all just because this is the shit that we like to do 100%.
Speaker 2:So, in all of it, and and really working towards being your own boss, so you, so no one can tell you that you have to act a certain type of way, is is really, is really that, and that's what I'm saying. Like I really wish that I was better at basketball, because if I was, or that I took it more serious, because if I was just like Angel Reese, y'all wouldn't be able to tell me shit, because one thing about it I'm talking all this shit and I'm being, you know, be able to articulate it I'm backing it up because I'm doing the work, like my team literally won the national championship. So, regardless of what you have to say about my attitude and the way that I run, the way that I run things over here, I'm putting action behind it. So that's really all it is. So, yeah, I've just like turned the like negative connotation of being unapologetically me into like a positive and just like using it for my benefit, but it was never a negative.
Speaker 2:It was never a negative to me. It was just like that is how the people around me made it seem, so I turned it into a positive and I've just now I'm being very loud about what I do, if it's like, if it's the professional part of me yes, I am a mid, mid senior level professional working in tech. I, you know, I, I'm, I'm managed, I make money. Then, monday through, I do that Monday through Friday, then Friday, excuse me. Then Friday through Sunday, I'm DJing and I'm being loud, I'm, you know, I'm making my presence known, whether it's by speaking on the mic, whether it's playing this dope ass music that people want to listen to, and I'm just like enjoying being a part of the scene. I'm going to do that too. So, anywhere that you, that you, that you in you excel, but I just want to know what any of that has to do with you not washing dishes that you use.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I mean that's you going back. Why are you settling back?
Speaker 2:Because, this is the theme of the episode. The theme of the episode is being unapologetic, but we're being. I'm talking about being unapologetic in a positive way. You were talking about being unapologetic. That's just an example.
Speaker 1:There's plenty of times where I've been unapologetic in a positive way.
Speaker 2:Of course, no one's saying that you're not, you want to bring up the one bad thing.
Speaker 1:we all can't be perfect what I say because we have these conversations perfectly perfect.
Speaker 2:Yes, yes, you are a ghetto intellectual. Yeah 100% but every every week you do the same thing and expect, excuse me, a different outcome. Not even expected to for outcome I don't expect. The outcome is always the same and I feel like we know.
Speaker 1:I'm just waiting for Bob to be like you know what? This is. Just my son, if this is the one thing that she's never.
Speaker 2:She's never going to do that.
Speaker 1:If this is the one thing that he does that I don't like, cool, so be it. That's all it is. She's never gonna do that. Mom has a lot of things. You have a lot of things that I have to learn to accept because I love you. You, that's the thing. It's not love if you can't accept me. For me, that's the thing.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I'm going to say that they don't love me.
Speaker 1:for me, people are the podcast.
Speaker 2:Okay, this nigga acting like he just has a natural BO or like he walks, he walks, he walks. They don't love me for me, he walks slow, like these are things yes, these are things that we can accept you for things that we can't change. You know you snore when you sleep. You know things that you can't change, even though that can be changed. You don't wash the dishes because you feel like you don't have to. That's something you can just get up.
Speaker 1:So, first of all, first of all, first of all, what Yemi is not going to tell you is that in this house, our father has never washed the dishes.
Speaker 2:And never, never washed the plates.
Speaker 2:So if that's my learned behavior that's like if our mom is away, he will cook. He will leave the whole fucking dishes at the same. He will cook and fully leave the dishes in the sink, expect it. That's what I said. That's why I was like, why are you calling this man Like? What the fuck he going to do? Honestly, if anything, if you're feeling exhausted and you're feeling tired because you're fasting and you know it's taking a lot out of you, that nigga is doing the same thing too. But he could also get up in the morning because she wakes up a little bit earlier than he gets up to come downstairs and cook and cook for them.
Speaker 2:I'm like he can be doing that shit Like that. Nigga don't ever pick up a spoon, he don't pick up a knife.
Speaker 1:I'm like you must got a good, because I don't even know if you deserve it.
Speaker 2:But and that's the real team, you know, and that's why I said if anybody got something to say to me, they can say it to me, because I got words for them.
Speaker 1:Of course. So it's interesting and I love the fact that, like you, leaning in to who you are unapologetically has kind of amplified everything that you want it to be, which I think is a super, super, super, super important point, right, like a lot of times, people think that being unapologetically themselves, and I'm gonna say that means you get the right to act. Rude ghetto, and this is just me being honest, but it basically is all the shitty characteristics of a human being. That's what you think. It means, right, unapologetically Living out who you are and your truth for me Means that you gain an alignment and in that alignment you find out who you be and you end up becoming. This is my whole thing, remember you may.
Speaker 1:I said what my Ted talk is, right, my Ted talk, if I ever get the chance to be on it would be what would it look like if I never experienced trauma and what would the who is that individual and who is that person? Right, it's funny, when you start leaning in to who you are Unapologetically, how all the things you always envision for yourself start to happen. Who that glow, who, the personality, who, the networking, oh, the success in your career. All these things happen because you said. You know what. I'm tired of people dictating who I need to be.
Speaker 2:I dictate who I need to be, and I'm a good thing you get, for you get further along, like letting go of like what you know, how you feel, like how society feels, like you should act in the situation. I feel like me, and one thing that I know a lot of people do is like don't like never go up to someone and just like have a Conversation with them. And even sometimes, when you do it, I'd be like, oh my goodness, but like, sometimes, like you'll walk up and have a conversation with someone and that could literally be, or just like talking to the next person that you feel like you you shouldn't be talking to, or whatever. That can Literally be the connection that you need. So I've been that's one thing. I've been seeing a lot of like I'll talk to, I'll talk to certain people who like People, I'll talk to anybody really, and you never know what kind of connection that's gonna get you. But yeah, is there? Is there anything else that you wanted to say about?
Speaker 1:we didn't even talk about unapologetic. So now I have a beautiful story, right. So, like, like yummy said, middle, middle management, senior level, right, we're both kind of in the same space in our career right now, which is a beautiful thing to see, right?
Speaker 2:I'm a little ahead of you though that's fine.
Speaker 1:You, you, you've had the, you've had the, that, you've had the bank of knowledge and experience to help you along the way.
Speaker 2:So amen so for that you should honestly I'm just talking shit, because you literally left me at the TSA and and you upgraded your seat and and you would have done the same exact thing. Well, we don't know, because I'm not in the situation.
Speaker 1:Well, and you never will, because guess what? Your upgrade gonna happen and you're gonna be in the same.
Speaker 2:Position that I am and hopefully my soul house, come through.
Speaker 1:Amen At a good church. Hey, man, amen. So I'm saying these things because I'm realizing right like the early part of my career. I will tell y'all it was the biggest struggle of my life because I I felt like being me was enough, if that makes sense, not from a work standpoint, but I felt like, off the strength of who I am as a person, people would connect and vibe with me.
Speaker 1:No and that was a tough lesson I had to learn in corporate America. I wasn't in there. I wasn't in corporate America to make any friends, or I wasn't doing any of that, yeah. But what I realized is that, like these niggas don't give a fuck about you, so why should you give a fuck about?
Speaker 2:these. Yeah, they really don't care about you right and that was the realization.
Speaker 1:But then life hit me. In my second I would just the beginning part of my career is treacherous and I'm still at the beginning. You know I'm saying cuz careers typically last 30 to 40 years, but I'll be damned if I stay.
Speaker 2:I'm still working in corporate America, and I'm 60, I'm gonna be sick, so what?
Speaker 1:I will say now is that that, unapologetically, being myself at this new phase in my life has really Exponentially grown when it's come to corporate America. And that's the point I actually wanted to get to, because you ever thought, talked about it from a personal aspect, and I love the testimony because we need that. But we need practical application. Right on this podcast, you come to us for the last, you come for the funny, but we also give you a lot of practical sense, right? So we both being in corporate America you heard, at the level of the level we are in our careers, right, and it's not like we're doing anything big and we could, we could Still, but it's it's, it's doing something, right.
Speaker 1:I'm in corporate America, I'm a young professional or I'm in the middle of my career. I'm trying to elevate. What does it look like from a day-to-day perspective to be Unapologetically black in these spaces when majority of the company is white? And if they're on a diversity and inclusive Initiative, the majority of my counterparts are white women? Right, because that's really what it means. That's what it really means. Yeah, do you. And I don't mean we're gonna hire more black people, it means we're gonna hire more white women, or?
Speaker 2:or diversity in general. I'm just like diver whenever they really say that they really just mean white women or quoted language. That's just more called corporate game.
Speaker 1:You know I'm saying what does that look like? You know I'm saying like I'm trying to get that, because what I've noticed in my career and my experience now is that, like at this tech company, right, what I've learned is how to be professional but make it sound creatively, like myself right.
Speaker 1:Like it's not that boring guys like, well, this is the statement, blah, blah, blah. I'll be like, okay, so this is what the finances, looking like this this month, right in this month's finance, I'll break it out like blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. And even how I I I.
Speaker 2:That's one thing I struggle with too is like I can talk Like you know, we talk all the time on this podcast and we make and and we make, you know, big ideas sound regular. But like, when I get into my, my workspace and I'm trying to like have conversations about how things work, it's very hard for me to communicate that without like Speaking about it. The way that I would just have a regular conversation, like I could just, you know, like try to explain something to somebody and not using like Black vernacular or just speaking like it's regular conversation, because, one, they're not gonna get it to, it's gonna sound awkward in this space and and and. Three, you want to keep a level of professionalism. But if I'm just having a conversation with you, I could like fully break down a concept, a statistical concept, to you in regular language, but like having to be able to switch that it's just very hard to do, especially since I don't work in a traditional Corporate setting.
Speaker 2:Like I work in my house, so I can come downstairs and have a conversation with you about some other shit, and then I gotta go back upstairs and I go back upstairs and like you know, cop back, cop back. Cold switch is very it's very hard to navigate and remote work is definitely hard.
Speaker 1:Yeah, sometimes I do get caught up using. I'm like, yeah, it's giving. You probably say that all time on the cost.
Speaker 2:I definitely, I say one, I say on hundred, yeah, I say that all the time.
Speaker 1:I say a hundred yeah, I say that all the time, yeah, and now I've changed it from a hundred to a hundred percent, yes, so it's more of a further.
Speaker 2:So like it's simple things like that.
Speaker 1:But also I have made, like I know this has been like a really big topic, right, like before I didn't really understand, like the definition of presenting myself as Like a black man in America, right, because what they used to say is like that hair, blah, blah, blah me. I work from home, I'm on every call. I got, I got my hoodie, I got my hoodie on, I got the hood going back. If I got a hat, as I'm wearing it like a black man would, right. So I'm not, I'm not, I'm not really hiding that, no more. If I got braids in fresh braids, when they asked me I get a haircut, I'd be like, no, I got, I got my stuff rebrated. Today, if they see my, you know, and I do, I I've got never asked.
Speaker 2:I will fully like you're a woman, that makes sense. I'm a black man, black woman. I'm a black man in finance, with braids like that's. That's. I'm a black woman in analytics.
Speaker 1:No, no, no, no, but that's not what I'm saying. That it's just. It's just typical Finance is very clean cut.
Speaker 2:Like you have a typical.
Speaker 1:This is the new generation, but that's all we saying exactly so me doing that I was. I was in a meeting yesterday and there was another black dude. He had on a pink Duraq. I said I love to see it. I love to see it, my nigga. I said don't let me get a, because I will wear the Duraq and I have my shit tied to the side just to be like hey, a is so.
Speaker 2:I guess. So as long as it's not like an important meeting, if it's just like a regular one. It was a weekly sync, but it's just funny because like you're starting to see the generation is changing.
Speaker 1:Yeah, You're starting to, but he's older than I am, and that's what I'm saying.
Speaker 2:You have to say like it is a little bit, but like don't try to press anything too hard.
Speaker 2:You know, like, stay within your boundaries. Like, do what you do. You're a big one Like. I fully will have a conversation about what I did on the weekend with my manager and he loves he loves to hear it because he understands that, like, people have a life outside of, but that that was one of the things I did too. Yeah, like, hopefully, just talk about like what, like in detail. Yeah, I DJ this, I did this, I did this, you know.
Speaker 1:You know you should have fun because as a employer and I say that in corporate America you don't want your employer you're gonna want your employee to only rely and focus on you, because otherwise that just leads for a very dismal life. Like I was talking to Tunde about this, I said it's crazy how, when I started pursuing like other things work, work outside of my corporate job how my work performance got better, right, how my ability to focus got better, because it's like I got to get this work done because I want to hop to what I want to work on. I got other shit to do.
Speaker 2:I got other shit to do and I want to. I want to keep this job so I can fund the other shit that I want to do Like that's the biggest thing. I'm like you want me to do this? Okay, 100%.
Speaker 1:But then you start seeing that in your performance reviews, the amount of work you get, even the, the, the enmity that they give you, and that's what really did it for me.
Speaker 1:If you give me autonomy I use the wrong word, autonomy is the word If you give me enough autonomy, I'll go crazy because I already know how to make the right decisions. I just need to know that you're not gonna be on my back because at that point it's you doing the job, it's not me doing the job. So I say all those things because I think while while you're in corporate America, one of the biggest things I learned is that, like, we used to be so cut, like so guarded as black people and we still have to be to a degree right. But certain things I'm gonna tell you that I got a shoe hustle on the side and I make bread doing that, because you know what I might get your business on, god, you know what I'm saying. I just don't want to make money. But that's just the aspect of like in the generation of hustlers. I mean we in the generation of hustlers. But I got to be unapologetic myself.
Speaker 2:We are the generation of. I feel like our generation is the generation of hustlers and the generation after us is definitely the unapologetic. Like what do you mean? I can't do this, I'm gonna do whatever the fuck I want to do. Like just being very, not obtuse, because obtuse is like kind of negative connotation to it, but just being just like being like very in your shit, like I'm gonna be, I'm no, I'm focused on me and making sure that I'm living the life that I want to live, because the generations before were focused on everybody else.
Speaker 2:So, yeah, I believe that. I think that that ties in very well. You know, like Angel Reese literally just put on a show of like no, I'm gonna do what I want to do.
Speaker 1:I'm gonna be black.
Speaker 2:I'm gonna just make it make sense, like why would? Why would we want to go, like the losers aren't supposed to go to, to see? The president, regardless of how you feel about you know this being a win for black, for white, for women's sports in general. We all are aware that it is a win for women's sports in general, but if you lost the game, you don't need to be.
Speaker 1:Loser, loser, that's all it is. That's is we got the dub. You supposed to sell, you supposed to rub it in a face?
Speaker 2:Not to that extreme, I mean.
Speaker 1:I'm just not like that in general, I'm trying to tell you I'm so tired because I play sports. I'm glad I'm not good at sports.
Speaker 2:Because if I was, if I was, if I was dunking on holes and and you know, you know, scoring 30, 40 points a game, y'all would they, would, literally they would have to tell the town I'm so tired of it.
Speaker 1:It would be everybody against me, what the like? I'm trying to understand where this idea of sportsmanship and I would sell shirts, Suki against everybody. That's why I'm, I'm, I would be so. I'm so confused where this idea of sportsmanship came from. Because, because it doesn't make sense to me, right, Sportsmanship when y'all been going at it for 60, 70 minutes, and especially when it comes to sports like football, hockey, like you really trying to hurt me and now you telling me I got to pick, I got to ask for sportsmanship, like no.
Speaker 2:Right, that's especially a sport like that, where the goal is to knock this nigga down.
Speaker 1:Right, and I'm like y'all are. Y'all are arbitrarily picking what. What is the core of it not? And this is not it. This is a glad. These are gladiator sports. If you want to do them, you would do them. Now we got to wrap it up because that's. That was a lovely segment. No, it was honestly I wanted y'all to hear that, because there's value in being unapologetically yourself, and the value is that you understand that you are the only person that you need in order to be successful. You are the catalyst to your success.
Speaker 2:And anybody who's willing to help you on this success journey.
Speaker 2:You don't have to you don't got to do it alone, because that's what we that's what I mentioned before too Like I had a, I had a team and anywhere, anywhere, anywhere you feel like you see me succeeding and I'm and I'm still getting there. I haven't reached the pinnacle of my success yet, but anywhere you feel like you see me succeeding. I've had people that helped me along the journey. Of course, I did a bulk of the work, but I'll never say that I didn't have, like the support of my, my alumni chapter, my advisors when I was in college, you know, doing Delta stuff, like my brothers as it pertains to like professional stuff, my DJ mentors, my friends, all of the people that have supported me who come to, who come to my events, my, my friends that make flyers for me.
Speaker 2:Like anybody, it's a team. It all takes the effort of the team. Any, any part of my life where you see that I'm succeeding and I've had, I've had successful moments, it's all been because of me. But in, in addition to the people, that I have you.
Speaker 1:You, you go farther when you have a team, exactly. And the one thing I'll say about the Caitlin Clark and Angel Resituation is that when LSU won, I love the support platonically of all black men just celebrating the excellence that was black women. It's high time that that is the norm.
Speaker 2:All I have to say is this I went to school at the University of Iowa. I didn't give a fuck about them girls at Iowa.
Speaker 2:I didn't give a fuck. I wanted them to lose to South Carolina. I really wanted them to lose South Carolina. And I tell you why because Iowa does not support black people. And I'm going to tell you this right now the board of resurgence resurgence, whatever the fuck the people is are literally halting funding to all diversity programs at public schools and reviewing it to see if it's worth the money that they are giving.
Speaker 1:That's what they do first.
Speaker 2:That's what they're doing first. They're doing that right now. Once they do the old, once they do the new programs, they will definitely start reviewing. And if they decide to take funding away from the new programs, they're definitely going to look into the funding that they're giving old programs. That includes your BSU, whatever program your school got, whether it's and I'm specifically speaking very selfishly about Delta, sigma, theta, sorority, incorporated, because some of the funding that we did get from the things that we did on campus, off campus, was from our student government. So if they decide that they want to take that money away, I'm going to have a problem with that for sure. So fuck Iowa, fuck the University of Iowa. I hope y'all don't get no money from this sporting event, and that's really why I was rooting for y'all to lose. Y'all didn't do nothing for me. Anything that I got from the University of Iowa came from me.
Speaker 1:On the straight field and I still owe y'all money.
Speaker 2:They talking about a lot of y'all owe. I saw a tweet that said a lot of y'all owe Iowa apology. I said I owe them student loans and they not getting either from me. I owe them student loans too. They not getting that shit from me either. What you mean? I owe them an apology, I owe them money and they not getting that from me. Salome could call me today and I'm going to her Girl. Fuck you. Find that money in the basketball program. I know you got it.
Speaker 1:Y'all ask you ask me to give you this money back and I know you got it.
Speaker 2:They definitely do, but we don't got it.
Speaker 1:We just make more money than me with the NIL deals. Bro man, what it is to be a college athlete, but you got 16, 15, 17.
Speaker 2:I don't know how she is, she's tall as hell for a woman.
Speaker 1:She's six foot, Is she? That's what they said. They said Kaleen Clark six foot and her hands are massive.
Speaker 2:No, yeah, she do got big ass hands.
Speaker 1:Yeah. But they said, yeah, she's shorty, tall. She don't look tall, though, because she always bending down and she's a shooter. So, shooters it's something weird about shooters they never look as tall as they do because Steph Curry don't look tall and he's six feet too. No, he's like six, three, that's what they said.
Speaker 2:That's what they said they be lying on them reports. Yeah, of course people got to stop lying on that shit for real, On God, but yeah so congrats to LSU. I really wanted it to be South Carolina at the end, but shorty didn't know how to take jump shots.
Speaker 1:That's how I was.
Speaker 2:And that's the thing she did. She waved off the bitch. I'm like I would have took three dribbles in and just got me a little. You know, popping pool, popping pool she made one.
Speaker 1:She made one in the last couple of minutes too.
Speaker 2:That's why I was like it was a very important shot, but if you would have been doing that from the beginning of the game, it would have been a different game. It was a sports podcast. So we're not going to be talking about this too much longer, but we just wanted to talk about more of the ramifications.
Speaker 1:Yeah, the unapologetic girl that presidents were. By writing it, the first lady would like y'all said this is you lost.
Speaker 2:You a loser. Stay home, see you next year and this is my problem right. When black people win, y'all want to make it about part of participation for everybody. When white people win. You want to be celebrated.
Speaker 1:Celebrate their greatness. Why can't we just celebrate LSU's greatness?
Speaker 2:and let that be it. Right, you know what? We're going to go to the Obama House. I'm ready to go to Obama House too.
Speaker 1:Honestly, I'm so tired of y'all making sports political. Like, what is this? Yeah, everybody and I understand.
Speaker 2:And stop looking at black athletes to be the voices of black.
Speaker 1:Andrew makes his 19. She shouldn't have this much weight on her shoulders.
Speaker 2:Stop telling her what she shouldn't say to girls. It's the child. It's a lot of have fun. It's a lot of have a moment, because when I was 18, 17, I was far from politically correct. Yes, that's when I made the most of my mistakes. Yes, she's your TikTok dancing man. She be dancing in the game. That's a child. After she block a shot, she be doing a TikTok dance. That's a kid. My heart is.
Speaker 1:She's doing what all of y'all are envious of, and she's having fun, and that's why the people on Twitter telling her she needs to calm down are sick.
Speaker 2:She's having fun Because you didn't get to live that life and you feel like your way is right.
Speaker 1:That's jealousy. Live your life now. Yeah, literally have fun living, who be, who you are For your brother.
Speaker 2:And just like that, let's move on to the next segment Ghetto intellectual. Let's go with it. Ghetto intellectual question for today. Yeah, let's do that Ghetto intellectual. I was thinking that we could do things like Sendage on Twitter first you could do both, we could do both.
Speaker 1:We usually typically do yeah.
Speaker 2:But the ghetto intellectual question today and speaking of sports and all the things that we've been speaking to do you think that sportsmanship was a man made concept by the white man?
Speaker 1:It has to be.
Speaker 2:It has to be, it has to be because they started integrating sports and they started seeing that black people was whooping all asses. Just in our essence, we are very prideful. Y'all can, y'all can, y'all can beat us with them hoses out in them streets. But when you pick up this baseball and boom this, bitch out this thing, often a run around this stadium and act like a real nigga.
Speaker 1:When I start dunking all y'all because we could jump harder to y'all, I see y'all have to make rules like invented the three point line.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Now I'm not going to say anything about it, but we know why they invented the three point line.
Speaker 2:Right, that's really why Caitlin Clark got her points. Tell that bitch not to shoot. She was jacking up some of the wildest shots I see she shot five for 17 in one game.
Speaker 1:Stop shooting threes. That's not. That's not. That's not you being a volume score, that's literally you being the only score on the team.
Speaker 2:They literally make every. That's why I didn't like basketball when I was playing it, because our coach relied on the skill of one person. All of our, all of our plays had an option to go to one shooter. It's very easy to scout for that, yeah.
Speaker 1:It's very easy to scout. It doesn't make you a good coach either.
Speaker 2:Especially if you let this bitch throw up 30 shots a game. Yes, she's going to score 40 points a game because you let her throw up 30 shots. Mathematically, you would hope that at least 50% of them go in.
Speaker 1:And even if they don't 40%, that's still 30% of 30% of your okay.
Speaker 2:We all know math, but yeah, as long as it's not 10% out of 40 shots. Yeah.
Speaker 1:Then you really got to sit on the bench, you got to stop.
Speaker 2:20%, that's eight bucks Beyond the arc, you got to go inside Exactly. I mean, like, even if you made eight shots to that's 16, 16 points, that's a solid game.
Speaker 1:That's what I said, even if she shoots 30% at another, at another eight, or add another eight to that. No, no, add another four to that.
Speaker 2:I'm sorry you good 20 points a game that's decent. Anybody can win a game with 20 points.
Speaker 1:Shoot 40%, give us an extra 20.
Speaker 2:That's it so, to get into, the answer is yes, sportsmanship was created by white people.
Speaker 1:It had to be Like what Otherwise they would like how else do you love it? A playing field, because if I run through you as a grown man, I have every right to be like yeah, fuck boy, you're my son.
Speaker 2:What's really good. What you?
Speaker 1:going to do. You're too little, too small, too small. Or if I dunk on you, yes, you should feel demoralized, demoralized. Sportsmanship is a thing that they made.
Speaker 2:Yeah, so that's when they started giving out technical files. I bet you, the first person never get a technical file was a black man.
Speaker 1:That's a good thing to Google.
Speaker 2:Who was the first person ever get a technical file First player to ever get, okay, and at what point did they start charging people for technical files? I bet you, the first person to get a fee from the NBA for getting a technical file was also a black man. So yeah, that was the guy that got into a literal question. I'm going to jump right into things. I send Deji on Twitter just because you know we've been talking a lot which, so, for the sake of not talking too much longer, we're going to get right into this Things. I send Deji on Twitter when I find the tweet.
Speaker 1:So all I see here is that it looks like Carl Malone has had the most technical files.
Speaker 2:No, that's not what we asked. But I'm sorry, rashid Wallace.
Speaker 1:But a technical file. They said this these sources are wrong because they're saying it was invented in 1999. I feel like it was sooner than that. A technical file was invented 1999. Oh, like in the year, it had to be in the 80s or 90s, when it had to be in the 80s because of the bad boys pistons, but I don't know. I'm going to have to look. I'm going to have to look at this very controversial take.
Speaker 2:You know we listen to a lot of music over here on the nothing but a G thing podcast. Deji is the R&B thug and I just DJ in real life. So very controversial take. Who would win in a versus summer Walker or CISA? This tweet says, not going to lie, summer Walker beating CISA in a versus. Let's be for real.
Speaker 1:So, CISA has 20 songs 20 songs versus 20 songs.
Speaker 2:Who's winning? You can do features you can do. You can do your own songs. You can do EP things. Who's winning? Summer Walker or CISA? I'll tell you after you say who you say and I say who I say. I'll tell you what the people say.
Speaker 1:So if I had to go, based off a body of work, control. She has the better album, cisa has the better album. Control is a classic Grammy award winning should have been. So then CISA like no, because SOS is a lot of single lines, but she did that because she marketed it on TikTok, so it was more a commercially successful album, but it's a lot of one lighters. It's not a good album about lyrics.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it's not a good album holistically. It is a good album, but it's not a good album and holistically in storytelling and all that stuff. But she did that on control. But SZA, we got session 32, summer walker. I mean summer walker, session 32, we got riot. We got clear, we got settling it's Her, we got her.
Speaker 2:Pop. We could do it like this popularity notarized SZA for lyrics and song quality, summer, summer. But the people voted. They said SZA because I personally, like, like I said, I do what I do. It like like I broke it down as it pertains to popularity, sza. As it pertains to lyrics, in like full circle moments, summer walker Me. Who am I bumping more?
Speaker 1:full circle moments for me would be SZA hands down.
Speaker 2:Like moments, like songs. Moments like you just said, there's like lyrics in the songs that you fuck with, but like as it like a, like a full body of work.
Speaker 2:Yeah full body of work? Yes, but like SZA, just dropped this album, which is why people are, like you know, giving it so much of its credit, and I believe that she next year come to Grammys if SZA's not walking up to that stage multiple times. You really think that's why I said that good. I think that its commercial success does not. I think a good album does not make a Good, actual, solid album, does not? We talked about this before with Taylor Swift and Beyonce. A good album does not make you a Award-winner.
Speaker 1:You know, but I'm saying is it a good album?
Speaker 2:I only listen to it a full, like once. But, I just like. I just like the one song that I like. And the one song that I like gives it enough power to like, do whatever needs to.
Speaker 1:Do not because I'm trying to compare, but Jasmine Sullivan's hotels.
Speaker 2:Yeah, she got their words for that, though.
Speaker 1:Complete body of work, wonderful story time.
Speaker 2:In the beginning of the end. Everything is cohesive, it flows. That's a good, that is a good album and she received her awards for that.
Speaker 1:That's a clock, that's an album you keep like yeah.
Speaker 2:And I feel like it probably would have did better if the name wasn't called hotels, like that's what brought people's attention.
Speaker 1:I Listen to her regardless to be honest, but like the time, because we mess with Jasmine but other people.
Speaker 2:The time it came out, it was really relatable, especially since the state of dating is just trash right now. But yeah, so I send a Twitter to be very honest with you.
Speaker 2:You know summer Walker is my girl, this is also my world. But I just you know something about like body Deep, the list, that the list for me insane, constant bullshit, reciprocate, yeah, circus, like still over it to like, even though y'all didn't give it the praise that it need, like switch on a nigga, like a Lot of the songs just hit for me on that second album, like in the only song that I really listen to now on on snooze is snooze, on SOS snooze. I can play that shit like 15 times a day and never get sick of it.
Speaker 1:Who's love language shirt.
Speaker 2:Like her singles that came out like I heard shirt Good days. I hate you. These are songs that like have been out so long that we forget that they were on the album. But yeah, thank you for listening to another episode of nothing but a G thing podcast. It has been great to have you here with us. If you love us so much and you want to catch up with us even when we're not recording podcast, you can follow us on our social medias, our Instagram and Twitter, for the podcast is nothing spelled all the way out N-O-T-H-I-N-G capital B, capital A, capital G, capital T. My personal social medias if you want to keep up with me Instagram and Twitter. Suki G's S-U-K-I-G Double E and a Z, because I make everything that I try look twice as easy.
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